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hermesnz
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advice on choosing a high end steel frame please..
#1303 - 02/14/04 01:58 AM (202.156.2.59)

Hello

I am looking to buy my first high end bicycle. I am looking for a frame with traditional geometry, in steel, and fillet brazed, which exhibits a lot of traditional craft.

I am trying to decide between the following:

Moser Leader AX
Moser TK2
Merckx MX leader
Colnago Master XLight
De Rosa Neo Primato

Any assistance/comments on the merits of the above frames would be most appreciated.

Thanks

HNZ


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Dave_Thompson
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Re: advice on choosing a high end steel frame please.. new [Re: hermesnz]
#1304 - 02/14/04 02:14 AM (24.17.236.162)

You shouldn't limit yourself if you are looking at frames in this price range. There are some exquisitely good 'custom' made frames for around the same money.

Some that come to mind are Kirk: http://www.kirkframeworks.com/ Strong: http://www.strongframes.com/ Della Santa: http://www.dellasanta.com Landshark: http://www.landsharkbicycles.com/ only to name a very few. Any one of these builders can make exactly what you want, tailored to your needs and desires. There is a very big world out there when you are interested in bikes in your price range.

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Edited by Dave_Thompson (02/14/04 02:19 PM)


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MichaelKatz
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Re: advice on choosing a high end steel frame please.. new [Re: hermesnz]
#1316 - 02/14/04 01:10 PM (68.80.250.225)

If you are on the east coast, look at Spectrum http://www.spectrum-cycles.com/

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terry
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Re: advice on choosing a high end steel frame please.. new [Re: hermesnz]
#1318 - 02/14/04 02:19 PM (24.218.121.204)

the bikes you've selected are all fine machines but, IMHO, dave and mike have the right idea. the good side working with a custom builder-it's a great experience with absolutely no compromises and you won't see your bike every time you go for a group ride-the only downside is that with a lot of the best builders it does take a while to get your frame.

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hermesnz
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Thank you gentlemen... new [Re: terry]
#1321 - 02/14/04 02:57 PM (202.156.2.59)

this has cast a whole new light on the issue for me. Much appreciated.

Regards


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Re: Thank you gentlemen... new [Re: hermesnz]
#1322 - 02/14/04 03:04 PM (24.17.236.162)

hermesnz: Where are you located?

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hermesnz
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Re: Thank you gentlemen... new [Re: Dave_Thompson]
#1323 - 02/14/04 03:10 PM (202.156.2.59)

Hi Dave

Singapore, but from New Zealand!


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Re: Thank you gentlemen... new [Re: hermesnz]
#1324 - 02/14/04 03:25 PM (24.17.236.162)

Are there any custom frame builders in Singapore?

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Re: Thank you gentlemen... new [Re: hermesnz]
#1325 - 02/14/04 03:28 PM (68.80.250.225)

Kahuna, the creator of this site, lives in Hawaii and I believe has dealt with Tom Kellogg/Spectrum to have custom frames made. You may want to email him to get a sense of the experience of "long distance" custom frame building.

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rwl
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Re: advice on choosing a high end steel frame please.. new [Re: hermesnz]
#1326 - 02/14/04 04:06 PM (67.169.8.48)

I'd include in that list dario pegoretti. There's a distributor in malaysia and japan.

If you want fillet brazed, and you're wanting to work with a small builder, Steve Rex is great. -- Rick


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hermesnz
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Thank you all, I now... new [Re: rwl]
#1332 - 02/14/04 11:54 PM (202.156.2.59)

have a lot to investigate.

Much appreciated.


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Jeff_Nichols
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Reged: 12/18/03
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Re: advice on choosing a high end steel frame plea new [Re: hermesnz]
#1333 - 02/15/04 12:03 AM (67.169.183.134)

It doesn't sound like you're on any sort of budget but if you're looking for a great value in a custom fillet brazed steel frame, check out http://www.curtlo.com. He's got a lot of experience doing custom fittings remotely. He tends to start with a bike you're currently riding and work from there.

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