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swmrdrn
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Early '90's Calfee/LeMond Geometry
#2271 - 04/08/04 03:47 AM (216.103.50.78)

I have owned Calfees in the past and about 6 months ago I sold my Luna Pro. I missed it so yesterday I purchased an ealy 1990's Calfee built LeMond Carbon frame in very good condition. It measures 56.5cm to the top of the seattube and about 55cm to the bottom of the post binder. I measured an effective toptube of 56.5cm (it's hard to be exact because of the slopping TT). The bike is the right size for me in the toptube measurement and about 1cm small in the seattube so all in all I think it will work fine.

My Question (Finally!) is... does anyone know the headtube and seattube angles on this frame? My only complaint with my luna pro was the 74 degree headtube.

Thanks,

Ron


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Re: 1992 Lemond Brochure new [Re: swmrdrn]
#2273 - 04/08/04 04:49 AM (65.28.98.177)

Ron,

According to the 1992 Greg Lemond Bicycles brochure, Lemond carbon fiber frames were sized: 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, & 60 cm (measured "center to-top"). As you know, this is different from Calfee specs which measure from the center of the bb to the bottom of the seat post binder.

Thus the top tube length, HTA, STA, and fork rake (FR) for the 92' Lemond carbons (closest to your measures) were:

54 cm: Top tube=55.5 cm HTA=73deg STA=73.5deg FR=4.5cm
56 cm: Top tube=56.5 cm HTA=74deg STA=72.5deg FR=4.5cm

Your top tube measurement leads me to believe that you have a 56cm Lemond carbon but your seat tube measure (as measured center to binder bottom) may indicate a 54 cm size. However, if your tt measure is accurate, then you likely have the 56cm. If that is the case, then your frame has a 74deg HTA similar to your old Luna Pro.

hth...

-R

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Re: 1992 Lemond Brochure new [Re: RDP]
#2279 - 04/08/04 03:33 PM (216.103.50.78)

Thank you for the help. I re-measured it and the TT is 56.5 C-T-C from the bottom of the binder to the center of the headtube and 56cm along the TT. I double-checked the seat tube and my measurements are correct... it doesn't measure 54cm or 56cm from anywhere to anywhere! Does your brochure have a headtube measurement? This frame's headtube is 13cm. I was told that this frame was actually used be Greg LeMond himself (not sure I believe that). Perhaps it was a custom for him. That could explain some of the nonstandard dimensions.

Thanks again,

Ron


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Re: 1992 Lemond Brochure new [Re: swmrdrn]
#2284 - 04/08/04 05:08 PM (65.28.98.177)

Craig Calfee is the best person to ask to confirm whether your frame was actually 'owned' by Greg Lemond. However, I recollect from an old Bicycling magazine article, which reviewed Greg's actual bike, listing its size as "55 cm" (or about 52.5 c-t-c). I believe his top tube was described as a 'rangy' 57cm. So you may have Greg's bike.

Unfortunately, the 92' Lemond brochure does not list head tube lengths.

BTW - would be nice to see your Lemond carbon in the gallery. I had one in the past and built it up as an exact replica but it was one size too big. I replaced it with a Tetra.

-R

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Re: 1992 Lemond Brochure new [Re: RDP]
#2303 - 04/09/04 06:17 PM (216.103.50.78)

I am trying to finish the build tonight. I am putting a 9sp Record group with late generation Deltas on it. It will be a stylish Sunday ride. I'll post pictures when it is done. My now gone Luna is in the gallery under "Ron's Luna". Thanks for the help.

Ron


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