DougSloan
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Reged: 02/10/04
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Hey. I'm tired of Czar and his comrades. Guy gets on my nerves.
Anything new? I'm just doing a lot of fixed gear riding, including 160 miles that tore me up pretty bad. Shouldn't try to spin 175 rpms down long hills on rides that long. One word: Friction.
Just checking in.
Doug
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Dave_Thompson
prophet
Reged: 12/19/03
Posts: 717
Loc: Spokane, Washington
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Doug: I dabble over at RBR ocassionally, particularly in Good Trader/Bad Trader because I've made it a hobby of mine collecting scammers checks. Well, some guys collect butterflies don't they? So why not pretty checks.
My curiosity is piqued by your "Czar" comment. Would you please explain?
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Steel lover, but then I like Ti with carbon too.
Licensed bike geek.
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easypedaler
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Reged: 02/08/04
Posts: 149
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I still check over RBR as this board is sometimes very quiet. Of course, that means we all are logging LOTS of miles.
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TJeanloz
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Reged: 02/05/04
Posts: 20
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I've looked in on the new board. There is some compatibility issue whereby they won't give me a username/password, which is just as well. It seems like it has gotten positively vitriolic. It might just be that the new format doesn't allow you to screen out posts as well as the old one did, but it seems like everybody is more angry and less civil (not that we were all that polite or civil before). It seems to have gotten very playgroundish - nobody's really willing to think about things. The lack of traffic here is almost a relief - the chatter is at least meainingful.
Otherwise, things are good. It's getting to be springtime in Boston, so I'm back on the bike (when it isn't raining).
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Lon
sage
Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 595
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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"It seems to have gotten very playgroundish - nobody's really willing to think about things. The lack of traffic here is almost a relief - the chatter is at least meainingful."
For some reason when we were the old Calfee Phorum we would get folks like that. I was one of the people that told them their attitude wasn't welcome.
I would much rather have a more quiet forum than have them find us again. I know exactly what you mean!
Happy board surfing! 
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OldEd
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Reged: 02/05/04
Posts: 117
Loc: The Great South
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Between a start-up Senate campaign, FINALLY getting my workshop project off the ground, major house renovations, and generally rainy cold crappy weather, I have managed to put in a grand total of 106 miles this April. Lord.
Last time Life interfered with riding this way, I ended up off the bike for six years. Sheesh.
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PsyDoc
friend
Reged: 01/14/04
Posts: 37
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...have you thought about taking your older son for a ride yet in a trailer? My son is about 1.5 months younger than yours and we have been on three rides in a burly trailer. He totally loves it...at least 10 miles of it. I have not pushed him further yet as I do not want him to find it aversive. My wife and I can now get out for rides on the weekend...nothing long, just tooling around the town, stopping at parks so he can play for a little bit, etc. By the way, I did not realize you had a 2-month-old as well...big congrats! The wife and I are thinking about another one, but I see it being about 10x the work it is now and she thinks it will be much less than 10x.
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sn69
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Reged: 04/03/04
Posts: 28
Loc: San Diego, CA
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nm....
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Cory
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Reged: 02/05/04
Posts: 16
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,,,something would develop here. Steam and Bill 105 have turned that into a rantfest. I can't resist looking in occasionally, but it's like picking at a scab. My productivity at work has probably improved 50 percent in the last couple of months.
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Starliner
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Reged: 02/06/04
Posts: 15
Loc: SF Bay Area CA
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I hear what you're saying regarding your work productivity having improved. I quit going there for a while until recently, but haven't been too interested in the political stuff, only a few social things. Too many keytaps needed to see who is posting, thread by thread, and i've lost interest as a result. The format is too junky, too busy for my eyes. I don't like all the additional tack-ons people now have with their posts - the pictures, the quotes, the cute distractions - reminds me of a wordy phone answering message; it gets old and annoying real quick.
This site isn't much greater in format (sorry Kahuna) but I really like the peace and quiet here. I must confess that I won't miss several of the more prolific and closed-minded posters on the old board, and hope their involvement here is quick and shortlived. On earth.
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OldEd
contributor
Reged: 02/05/04
Posts: 117
Loc: The Great South
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We need you!
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The_Walrus
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Reged: 02/05/04
Posts: 19
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...and I think I'd miss him, even though I find almost no common ground between us (outside of cycling and trains). He might get sarcastic, he might be condescending, his logic might strain the laws of the physical universe--waitaminnit, what do I mean "might"?--but he doesn't stoop to the sort of thuggish mean-spirited spew that a couple of the others love. Hell, I'd buy him a beer or two if I ran into him....
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ColnagoFE
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Reged: 02/05/04
Posts: 22
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nah...it's always been that way. Sometimes the lefties get uppity...sometimes the righties. The new software pretty much sucks though. Always getting timeouts and weird errors. I think Doug got a bit tired of all the GW bashing over there. It's just too easy nowadays to make fun of him--like shooting fish in a barrel--and Steam and Bill just keep repeating the same old party line regardless of the facts.
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DuaneGran
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Reged: 05/05/04
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A little birdie told me over at RBR that this was a nice neighborhood in which to visit. Nice forum.
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Live_Steam
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Reged: 03/31/04
Posts: 13
Loc: NYC
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I mean the beer part is really nice. Heck I think I would sit with and buy a beer for just about anyone on the forum. Even Cory and Czar. I never understood people getting so bent out of shape on the NCB. I know I have gotten caught up in some of the vitriol, but for the most part I simply like to provoke (not troll, there is a difference) the exchange of ideas. I toss a bone in the ring and let the dogs have at it. There isn't anything wrong with that as long as people stay on topic. I try to be civil, but that curtousy is not always reciprocated. I usually chalk it up to someone having a bad day. I do find some things to be funny, but BBS and BJ need to get above the childish "glue sniffing" banter. People there can and do have a good sense of humor when they want to. Well I hope I do get to have a beer with you and a few others some day. Keep highballin"!
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The_Walrus
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Reged: 02/05/04
Posts: 19
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Yeah, it's weird how everyone can be cordial and good-natured there UNTIL politics is the topic. People who seem to otherwise be intelligent, rational and knowledgeable do this Jekyll/Hyde thing and morph into slavering, rabid dogma spouters. Agree about the "glue-sniffing, etc." business--there's gotta be an available sandbox somewhere else for those clowns to play in.
The funny thing is that, in a social setting, I'd bet most of us would get along. (My favorite pipedream lately is getting maybe you, Ed, Czar and Doug together at my favorite hole-in-the-wall Mexican place, plying you all with the best chicken tacos in the world and some cervezas, and then sitting back and seeing what happens...)
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Live_Steam
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Reged: 03/31/04
Posts: 13
Loc: NYC
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That sounds like a first rate idea. I would of course need a little advanced notice being on the right coast and all. Heck I could call it a fact finding trip for my new business venture. I have been considering buying a restaurant and Southwestern is a cuisine I am considering - primarily because of it's simplicity and affordability from a patronage standpoint. More upscale than Chi Chi's or Chili's though. Maybe we could get out to see Ol' No. 3985 too!
I am pretty sure if everyone were all put into one big room or had the chance to spin together, most would get along just fine. You may find it hard to believe, but Most of my friends and anyone who knows me would tell you I am one of the most mild mannered people they know. As I said, taking the middle of the road on the Internet is no fun. This is a safe place to expand the envelop a bit. No one should really get offended and it can never come to blows :O)
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The_Walrus
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Reged: 02/05/04
Posts: 19
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You need to visit New Mexico, too--specifically Chama. Well, okay--Santa Fe and Taos, too, but only because they're close. There's a great restaurant called Vera's, which was a tiny, "funky" (to be polite) place when I first went there and has since expanded and spiffed up without losing its quality of food. New Mexico food is NOT to be confused with Mexican; there are similarities and overlap, but New Mexican is, I dunno, more earthy. (Never go in there and ask for chips and salsa...)
Oh, and just coincidentally, Chama is home to the Cumbres & Toltec, arguably the best functioning remnant of the D&RGW narrow-gauge empire.
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Live_Steam
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Reged: 03/31/04
Posts: 13
Loc: NYC
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I was in NM two years ago. I visited a friend of mine's father with him. We drove up to Dolce to trout fish in the Jicaria Apache reservation. Had a blast. We were going to get in the car and drive to Chama, but the weather turned, so we headed home. I know about the D&RGW RR spurr there. I was really looking forward to seeing it. Maybe as you said, I could make a side trip.
So NM cuisine and Mexican are different? I assumed as much. Is NM and SW the same? I figure we would do a fussion place. Maybe even have sushi. I have a few ideas I am working on. It may or may not happen. I know restaurants have the highest rate of failure of any business. That is why I am looking at places with real property. I figure even if the place failes, there is something of value remaining. I could alway become the landlord :O)
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The_Walrus
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Reged: 02/05/04
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...is that it's whatever someone says it is, at least for their purposes. (I personally would eliminate Tex-Mex from the category.) "Southwestern" in Tucson will probably look suspiciously like Mexican, but like I said above, in New Mexico (well, they're probably not gonna use a candy-assed term like "Southwestern"...) it's a whole 'nother thing, and I think I just realized why. It's the Indians, the Navajos and various pueblo tribes; New Mexican seems to me to be more corn-based than Mexican, and often that's blue corn (verrrr-r-r-ry tasty). (Note: the lack of chips n salsa I mentioned before is not the loss it might seem; Vera's starts you off with a basket of fresh, warm sopapillas (think of thick, moist pita bread made of cornmeal) that you drizzle with honey. Dios mio! If my car would make it, I'd leave tonight!) I don't recall encountering flour tortillas in that neck of the woods.
But please, please, tell me that remark about SUSHI was a joke that went flat.  ...and screw the "fusion" concept--c'mon, a strict constructionist like yourself?!?!??? Do it like a purist, man. If you have to "fuse" anything to the place, give it an ATSF/Fred Harvey motif.
You might wanna check out this mailorder place for some tastes: www.comfortfoods.com ; look at the stuff listed under "Desert Gardens". I love the green chile stew, and it's a testament to its wonderfulness that I'm not tempted to tart it up; I add some chicken, and maybe, maybe a bit of chopped onion and really finely chopped cilantro (my "drug" of choice). I think it's absolutely brilliant, as are many of the other items, and it's a freakin' MIX--and a damn fine one. However, YMMV...
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Nev
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Reged: 05/03/04
Posts: 375
Loc: Never where I want to be
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Yup. Tex-Mex is nothing. The closest thing it can claim ownership of is the hijacking of enchilada's and drowning them with your choice of sauce. The rest is undistinguished mexican-like food preparation.
I have not eaten New Mexico.
"Southwestern" in Tucson does NOT suspiciously like mexican. It's foo-fooie and artistically presented, and a beautifully composed combination of regional and wider ingredients (mango & japeleno) that's delicious. What it's not is pretentious like you'd find "southwestern" any where else. (Many chefs have quit the rat race of the east and moved to Tucson. You'll be suprised at the restaurant/food quality there)
Furthermore, the mexican food in Tucson is like no other. Forget the tacos, and burritos and enchiladas and whatnot, the smallest part of the menu, and have at it. Carne seca, stews...oh my. There's a hundred places and no two are anywhere near the same--if you know where to go. 
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...is that it's whatever someone says it is, at least for their purposes. (I personally would eliminate Tex-Mex from the category.) "Southwestern" in Tucson will probably look suspiciously like Mexican, but like I said above, in New Mexico (well, they're probably not gonna use a candy-assed term like "Southwestern"...) it's a whole 'nother thing, and I think I just realized why. It's the Indians, the Navajos and various pueblo tribes; New Mexican seems to me to be more corn-based than Mexican, and often that's blue corn (verrrr-r-r-ry tasty). (Note: the lack of chips n salsa I mentioned before is not the loss it might seem; Vera's starts you off with a basket of fresh, warm sopapillas (think of thick, moist pita bread made of cornmeal) that you drizzle with honey. Dios mio! If my car would make it, I'd leave tonight!) I don't recall encountering flour tortillas in that neck of the woods.
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ALMOST damn nice?
I almost made it to Chama