Climb01742
journeyman
Reged: 12/22/03
Posts: 71
Loc: Concord, MA
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is it just me or are the rear drop outs on a fina massive? massive in the sense of being THICK. seem lots thicker than any other drop outs i've seen. just curious, is there a benefit to them being so thick?
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DaveN
new member
Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 33
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No,Dario is a firm believer in BIG dropouts and BEEFY chainstays. You should see what he did with the Big Leg Emma! Dave
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slowgoing
new member
Reged: 12/24/03
Posts: 9
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I think they're called Breezer dropouts. Carl Strong uses them too, put them on a titanium frame he made for me. They provide a larger contact surface for welding to the stays than a normal dropout.
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Climb01742
journeyman
Reged: 12/22/03
Posts: 71
Loc: Concord, MA
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is there any risk of opening skewers too far to accommodate the thickness? i've noticed that on the nut side of the rear tire skewer, the nut seems to be holding onto less skewer threads than on my other frames.
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DaveN
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Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 33
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Is there a problem in theory or in practice. In theory, perhaps an argument could be made, but since there is more than enough room for the shaft and the clamp to grip, and there should be no movement to start with assuming any skewer in any dropout is properly in place, then the theory would be questionable at best. In practice? No.
I crank on pedals like a 'mutha' and the dropouts on my Fina and other Pegs give a nice, firm grip. As Slow points out, these 'Breezer' style dropouts have been around for a while without a problme. There is plenty of room for the skewer to hold the wheel against the force exerted by both the pedal stroke and the vertical and lateral forces exerted on the rear wheel as you ride.
Don't worrry about it. Have a good New Year. Dave N.
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dbrk
contributor
Reged: 12/18/03
Posts: 201
Loc: Finger Lakes, New York
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I'll say that obvious thing first: the "Breezer" style d/os were named for Joe Breeze who invented them. They appeared on many bikes in the 90s, including a slew of Ibis back in Sebastapol days. My take on them is mixed. I dont' like that they restrict placement of the skewer and create a kind of unnecessary "it must go here" phenomenon. I prefer a more traditional set up because the same good thing is accomplished: the wheel stays put. Also if you are a racer then a fast wheel change is compromised by this limited and precise placement of the s kewer. I see their benefits, but why should drop outs have a downside? So there actually is a downside more in practice than in theory.
The cs on the Fina are beautifully made. I'm looking forward to Emma's Big Legs.
dbrk
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Dave_Thompson
prophet
Reged: 12/19/03
Posts: 717
Loc: Spokane, Washington
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My take on Breezer style dropouts is esthetic; they look finished. They bring the seat stays and chain stays to a beautiful conclusion. True the skewer lever must be in a particular position when closed, but to no detriment IMO. On the other hand, to my eye, Campy style dropouts have an unfinished, 'add-on' look to them. Almost like an afterthought.
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