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OldEd
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Have I felt the country break the past few days? new
#3087 - 05/24/04 03:44 PM (162.114.211.139)

Did it suddenly decide -- after the fair, due deliberation the Folk ALWAYS give these things, bless them -- that Iraq is a disaster and so is Bush, and he is gone? For some reason the past week or so I've felt the country making up its mind on something big, like liquid Jello finally turning solid, and I think that's it.

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TheMightySkunk
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Re: Have I felt the country break the past few day new [Re: OldEd]
#3095 - 05/24/04 08:17 PM (66.135.253.9)

It would be nice to think so, but I doubt it. As someone who does over half of his business outside the US, I can safely say that Bush and his neanderthal thugs Wolfowitz and Cheney are starving me. I'm dead in the water except for Australia and the UK.

Hopefully the triumphant reception of Michael Moore's "Farenheit 9/11" in Cannes has wised a few people up as well.

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The_Walrus
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Don't I wish... new [Re: OldEd]
#3142 - 05/27/04 08:34 PM (216.244.30.210)

...the big problem in gauging the mood of the country is that the left and right coasts get a disproportionate amount of consideration, while the fabled heartland gets short shrift. We hear the soundbites and read the op-ed pieces from the politicos and media outlets and pundits and it seems like displeasure with the Bush administration is reaching critical mass, but travel an hour away from L.A. or Washington or NYC and the picture changes completely. There's a vast, overlooked, lurking segment of the population that is rarely addressed by the national political circus and rarely heard from, except when they step into the voting booth and clobber the Democrats. You think Kerry's got a lock on some of the big states, like California? Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. Trouble is, even if the statewide vote goes Democratic, the voters in Fresno or Bakersfield or Orange County will continue to send their conservative representatives back to Congress for another term. To me, that's more indicative of how the Silent Majority really feels. ...and keep in mind how much more support the GOP will still command in the Midwest and South. Hmmm--Kerry White House + Republican Congress = Carter Redux. The Democrats won't get anywhere until they start focusing on the bigger picture, i.e., going beyond replacing Bush with some synthetic Kennedy, and producing candidates (presidential, congressional, senatorial) who actually merit support.

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Cory
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I've fooled myself too many times to dare to hope. [Re: OldEd]
#3147 - 05/28/04 12:08 AM (63.150.56.105)

I thought I felt the same thing--a twitch, if not a genuine shift, in opinion. The endorsement of the Pres at least seems to have changed from unquestioning to reluctant.
But, shoot, there's a long way to go, and Rove will do ANYTHING, and my hardcore fascist friends are still as hardcore as ever. One actually told me the ONLY problem in Abu-whatsit is that the liberal media are determined to make Bush and the Pentagon look bad.
I'm not kidding--we're supposed to camp up in Northern Calif and ride a century this weekend, and there's a chance a 20-year friendship is going to dissolve in a fistfight. I'm going to wear my "I STILL HATE GEORGE BUSH" T-shirt to try to soothe him....


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