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Pages: 1 DiabloScott friend Reged: 12/30/03 Posts: 35 Loc: Concord, California Klein 2005 Line #4152 - 09/17/04 07:26 PM (65.198.3.2) Edit Reply Quote So I see from the web site that the Q-Pro series will be 105, Centaur, or Record, and that the Reve series (the compact frame with rear sorta-shock) will have 105, Veloce, or DA-10. Interesting mix of components and frames. I saw the new bikes at the SF Grand Prix and they had a set up with both bikes on trainers with a lumpy roller so you could see if you liked the shock on the Reve. I suspect part of the reason for offering Campagnolo is just diversification, reducing the stranglehold Shimano has had for so long, and part of the reason is consumer demand. I can't see anyone wanting DA-10 on a Reve though. Also at the SFGP I noticed the Campy neutral support vehicle had Q-pros on the roof! Anybody still reading this thread? -------------------- Check out my bike blog! http://diabloscott.blogspot.com Post Extras: dbrk contributor Reged: 12/18/03 Posts: 201 Loc: Finger Lakes, New York Re: Klein 2005 Line [Re: DiabloScott] #4158 - 09/18/04 01:46 PM (65.37.80.142) Edit Reply Quote Just the other day I saw a Klein TT bike in a local shop. The local Klein dealer is a good distance away and this shop wasn't the dealer (and it is the one I most frequent) but I was struck by an interesting difference in this bike from my previous encounters with Kleins. To wit, this very recent example had toothpaste layered TIG welds while the earlier Kleins I've seen were "Cannondale smooth" as it were, brush out or passed over to look nearly filet brazed in appearance. Honestly I was disappointed with this Klein's appearance since the welds weren't even or all that clean, say, in comparison to a recent Strong or Co-Motion aluminum I've seen both of which had more handsome toothpastey welds. Pegoretti comes to mind as well. Of course the appearance of the welds is aesthetic rather than functional and beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that. dbrk who admires Kleins but doesn't want one because it's not my design or style...who likes that others like them, etc. Post Extras: DiabloScott friend Reged: 12/30/03 Posts: 35 Loc: Concord, California Re: Klein 2005 Line [Re: dbrk] #4177 - 09/20/04 07:47 PM (65.198.3.2) Edit Reply Quote A big part of Klein's appeal is the aesthetics and sloppy-looking welds would certainly detract from that. Cannondales have always been filed - you can usually see the file marks, but Klein has long boasted that their welds are so smooth and flawless that they don't need to file them. You didn't say if the Klein TT bike was some kind of TT specific frame or a road frame set up for a triathlete or something. It's been a long time since I saw the TT specific model and I can't even remember what they called it but it was back in the days of threaded steerers and aluminum forks. Maybe the TIG welding was more toothpastey back then. -------------------- Check out my bike blog! http://diabloscott.blogspot.com Post Extras: Pages: 1

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