vomatic
new member
Reged: 12/19/03
Posts: 10
Loc: Des Moines, IA
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What do you like for wheels? Please give me your feedback on everything.....positive and negative. Kysriums? Shimano? Topolino? Campy?
My brother has Ksyrium's and has sent them back twice (in 18 months) to get repaired. The last time took over 6 weeks to get them back.
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Lon
sage
Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 595
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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We have had a great many wheel discussions on the "old" forum. I and others are a fan of a good set of hand built wheels as being the most bang for your buck. They are not as sexy to look at but they will be relatively bombproof, easy to true when needed, and easy to repair if needed. I have two sets of Velocity Aeroheads (the same essential rim Cane Creek uses) with Chris King Hubs. I love Chris King Hubs. That said I purchased a pair of the Dura-Ace 7700 wheels and I've been very happy with them. They have stayed true and they look nice. I don't notice any significant performance difference. I got mine for a $150 from a Saturn team member selling off parts. That makes them really easy to like. I like the ride and they do accelerate and climb well.
K's are well received and usually trouble free from what has been said. The negative comment is a harsh ride. Folks with Topolinos like them. The only negative I remember was the rear hub giving some problems to one or more I don't remember. People really like their ride.
Good luck.
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Lon
sage
Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 595
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Don't forget you can do a search on the old forum. There really is a ton of comments on wheels.
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1centaur
journeyman
Reged: 12/24/03
Posts: 126
Loc: Massachusetts
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Campy Neutrons on all my bikes - never had to true, comfortable, spin well - great reviews from most. Only issue can be getting tires on the rims - I lever them on and off. Campy hubs are designed to make a noise when they freewheel, in case you love silence.
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Eddie Merckx to Lance Armstrong
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Captain_Tony
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Reged: 12/24/03
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I have Hyperons on my Luna for the past 1,750 miles and they are GREAT. Yes, with a capital G-R-E-A-T. Nothing rides like them. And if you ask, I happened to pay only $1,250 for them (new) from a dealer in NC. What a buy. Don't know what I'll do when they are finally worn out. Guess by then I'll be too old to worry.
Buy CAMPY.
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vomatic
new member
Reged: 12/19/03
Posts: 10
Loc: Des Moines, IA
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Who has a picture of a Calfee with Topolino wheels? I'd like to see one and there are not any one the picture gallery.
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RDP
captain
Reged: 12/18/03
Posts: 245
Loc: Kansas
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Mr. Gocycle posted two pictures of his Luna w/ Topolinos:
Here: Topolino1
and here: Topolino2
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mb2k
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Reged: 01/07/04
Posts: 23
Loc: Bay Area, CA
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Check out the ZIPP wheels. The ZIPP 303's are one of the best, lightest wheels on the market. If you are doing Tri's...check out the 404's. I have used ZIPP 303 Tubulars for 3 years now...love em!
Their website address is www.zipp.com
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Gocycle
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Reged: 12/30/03
Posts: 11
Loc: Huntington, New York
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Quote:
RDP wrote:
Mr. Gocycle posted two pictures of his Luna w/ Topolinos:
Here: Topolino1
and here: Topolino2
That's them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lou Bruno
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Ohio_Bruce
new member
Reged: 12/23/03
Posts: 2
Loc: Dayton Ohio
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Vomatic
I have used the Campy Nucleon Wheels for a year and 1/2 (about 5000 miles). Great performance. No problems to date. The wheels hve stayed true even after hitting several potholes here in Ohio.
BruceC
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Agentil
friend
Reged: 01/26/04
Posts: 25
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Hi!
Sounds weird, but really makes sense --- Have you ever considered custom wheels?
My D'fly has custom wheels made by Jeremy Parfitt at Alchemy Bicycle Works in Santa Fe, NM. Give Jeremy a call and he'll take you through a neat interview process to determine you best custom wheel 'fit" based on stuff like your weight, ride style and others. My wheel set weighs a mere 1,264g total --- lighter than most carbon sets --- and they're stronger and of much higher quality (Tune hubs, American Classic rims, etc) than my previous Nucleons.
You won't be disappointed.
(505) 699-4307
jparamax@yahoo.com
-G'Ster
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vomatic
new member
Reged: 12/19/03
Posts: 10
Loc: Des Moines, IA
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OK. I bought the new Dura-Ace wheels. I like the looks of them and the ride. However, the only comparison point I have is the last years Dura-Ace wheels.
I am having one problem.....keeping them true. I needed to have them trued after 63 miles. And the way it looks, will need to do it again. My LBS is going to discuss w/ Shimano and see what the issue is. Stay tuned.
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skagwayroadie
contributor
Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 141
Loc: Alaska
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The old 7700 wheels and the Ultegra equivalent have issues with spoke tension. If they are too loose they alway go out of true. I got rid of a pair for this reason. If you go too tight, you greatly risk breaking spokes and they are not a common item stocked at a LBS. i sold mine to a less aggresive and light friend...she has been happy so far. Ksyriums fall victim to this from what I have heard.
I would definitely go with a custom wheelset. They are often times less expensive and lighter, while being just as strong if not stronger. Boutique wheels are fine, I have owned a set of Heliums and love em...never had an issue with them, but for the money I paid, I could have bought 2 sets of custom wheels that were just as light.
That being said...if you score a set cheap, go for it. I have been lusting after a set of 404's or 303's for a long time now...yet I can't justify spending the money. I won't by carbon rimed wheels used...so they will stay on the wish list for me.
Enjoy those wheels...now quit fussing and ride that darn bike!!!
...Mark
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Lon
sage
Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 595
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Vomatic,
I'm sorry to hear about your problems. The 7800 Wheels are very different than the old version.
I have a pair of 7700 Wheels and knock on wood they have not had to be trued in about 900 miles I have on them. I bought them used from a Saturn rider so they had miles on them before me.
One reason I bought them is with the old spoke design a good friend said they would be "bomb proof" even though I'm over 200 and the roads here are the pits. He has been right. I am a huge believer in hand built wheels but I got these at a great price. I like them.
Shimano was a big believer in their old spoke design. I've heard it mentioned that the change may have been due to Rolf saying he was going to sue since they are paired in a similar fashion. Who knows?
If you continue to have problems I sure would complain. They cost way too much to go out of true all the time. Maybe your wheels are a bad build. It happens.
Good luck.
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vaxn8r
contributor
Reged: 12/19/03
Posts: 222
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Actually, the old Shimano wheels are a superior design compared to the Helium. It was the Helium wheelset which had a problem with spokes backing out of the nipples due to the wheel tensioning and untensioning as one rode it.
The only negative I heard about the 7700 was complaint about lateral rigidity of the wheelset being a bit lacking. Very few have come in over the last 5 years or so requiring maintenance. Of course, all low spoke wheelsets go drastically out of true if the spokes are loose.
The 7800 is a brand new design and superior to what can be found on any "custom" wheelset because it is built for 10 sp. the bearings are further out and the spokes can be kept at very high and even tension. This is not possible with standard hubsets.
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Lon
sage
Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 595
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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vaxn8r no problem with lateral rigidity for me. I had Rev X's and without the spoke support pieces (I foget the name for them) I could flex them all over the place. I've been really happy with the wheels. 
So why do you think the 7800's that Vomatic has are going out of true? From your assessment they should be strong enough. I'm curious what you think. I have not seen them yet in person so I have nothing to judge them on. 
Take care. 
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vaxn8r
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Reged: 12/19/03
Posts: 222
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Yeah, I really don't know. I've heard that happening on Ksyriums once as well. That guy weighed about 220. I do know that the shop got it straightened out and he hasn't had problems in several years since they were brand new.
I got 7800's this year. I'm about 185lbs and ride pretty hard (raced them last weekend in big hills and fast descents) and have about 1,000 miles so far on them. I haven't had to touch them yet. They are not only a great looking wheelset but, at least on paper, a great design too (with the even rear wheel spoke tensioning and wider spaced rear bearings). I guess only time will tell about long range durability.
Vomatic, I'd make sure the shop gets them right or get a new set.
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skagwayroadie
contributor
Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 141
Loc: Alaska
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Are those 7800's hub bearings ball bearing or sealed catridge? ?I love the fact that Shimano uses baal bearings...my xtr hubs roll so smoothly...
They are super easy to adjust and maintain.
I would like to try them out none the less...they look really clean and match the groupo...IMHO.
In regards to the Heliums...I have had them since they came out and I have only trued them 3 maybe 4 times and that was for a mean bump or pot-hole. I have maybe 5 - 6000 miles on them. I have noticed them to be a little soft laterally, but not by much. My main issue has been the wear on the braking surface...It is glazed smooth now and I have to be very careful as the pads can polish them and make the braking non-existent in the rain.
Anyhooo...Mark
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vaxn8r
contributor
Reged: 12/19/03
Posts: 222
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Stainless ball bearings buddy. Oh yeah...
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skagwayroadie
contributor
Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 141
Loc: Alaska
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smoooove...marky likes it!
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flythebike
captain
Reged: 08/26/04
Posts: 272
Loc: N. Virginia, USA
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Topolino Review on Cyclingnews: http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2004/reviews/topolino_700cclincher
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