Robert_Peed
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Reged: 07/04/05
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Loc: Kansas City area
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My first post and I need your help. I am buying a Somec Starlight that has 2003 Campy Record and Campy electron wheels. I rode a Seven with Campy Centaur components and it seemed to shift a little hard. Some might say deliberate maybe. It took a bit more effort than what I was used to(Shimano Ultegra. I have always wanted Campy and I just wanted to know what to expect. Now tthe wheels. I understand the Electron wheels are a bit older. The weight seems a bit high compared to other models. Is this a good set of wheels or is there any need to consider replacing them down the road? Thanks for everyone's help in advance.
Bob
Edited by Robert_Peed (07/04/05 06:51 PM)
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Joker
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Reged: 07/20/05
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Loc: HK
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I used to have the higher end Campy Chorus group. The shifting was not very good and required minor adjustments after each shift. I've spent countless hours adjusting them including bringing the bike to the LBS.
After 3 years of using Campy Chorus 9speed I've switched to Shimano Dura Ace, wow the difference is remarkable. Stay with Shimano!!
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OldBones
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Loc: NJ
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Give the shifters a few hundred miles. They'll begin to lighten up. The Centaur shifters are stiff at the start.
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Insightdriver
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Reged: 03/07/04
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I prefer mechanical equipment, such as cable-operated shifters for bicycles to work smoothly right out of the box. To say to wait for a few hundred miles of use until they loosen up enough just points out the equipment design is not optimum, IMOHO. I put over 3000 miles on Shimano Ultegra and the shifting rarely ever needed any adjustment in that whole time. The drivetrain wore out yet the shifters are still precise and smooth.
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OldBones
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Replaced my record chain at 3.5K miles and centaur cog at 5K miles. Sounds like you were rooked 
I do keep drive train very clean and lube religiously but still, what did wear out?
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Insightdriver
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Technically the drive train isn't worn out, but the ring teeth shapes are worn and a new chain on worn teeth like that will skip. I never bothered to change the chain like meticulous maintainers do. That said, it's a Giant bike and not my main ride and I considered a $650 bike to be disposeable. If I wanted any more life from the bike I could have changed the cassette and chainrings and chain. Cables, shifters and hoods are just fine.
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Robert_Peed
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Loc: Kansas City area
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The Campy versus Shimano debate will go on forever until another supplier comes to market. I have ridden the Ultegra and it shifts pretty good. I have also ridden with Centaur and it shifts a bit harder. I need to try the Dura ace and then I will really know!
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Nev
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Is it me or are campy hoods on the small side of things? Whenever I tried them I felt like my hands were going to slip off the tops. I did like the shifting: click, click, click.
I ride the Dura Ace 10spd and they fit my hands well. Shift smooth. They've been flawless from day 1 for a few thousand miles so far. Only adjusted one time so far for cable stretch only.
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Allan
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Reged: 05/04/04
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The Campy hoods seem a bit small for large handed people, myself included, and they should offer two sizes of rubber hood covers to help solve this situation.
Having said this, the shimano hoods feel a bit bigger to me than the Campy ones, and i could only summize that a smaller handed person would feel the shimano hoods a bit on the big side.
The Campy mechanism is a bit stiff when new, thats no surprise, but it settles in with a bit of shifting milage.
Compared to the shimano units, its not as smooth when new, but then the shimano ones have a tendancy to get a bit sloppy after 5,000 plus miles.
Considering the amount of small parts in the STI or Ergo levers its understandable why Campy tried to make them all fit as precise as possible, hence the 'break-in' period.
Shimanos units are non servicable and i notice the tolerances of the small parts to be not as exacting as Campys servicable Ergos.
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gmason
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Reged: 10/30/05
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Loc: Rhone-Alpes, France
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Quote:
OldBones wrote:The Centaur shifters are stiff at the start.
Centaur and below use bushings on the ErgoPower axles, while Chorus and Record use cartridge bearings. That could introduce some "stiff" feel initially, though I never really noticed any difference between my Centaur and Chorus setups.
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