timto
new member
Reged: 12/25/03
Posts: 29
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In buying a vamoots, I'm wondering if anyone had actually ridden and compared similar set ups for the std vs the SL for a head to head comparison?
There are little features like the extra milled out dropuouts that help distinguish the 6/4 other than just the tubing - but I'm wondering if it does mostly come down to saving a few grams?
Curious - one of my lifetime wish list bikes. I was looking to a high end ti frame a while ago and was not able to make up my mind. Then the SL was introduced and ruined the campaign. The SL is was not intially in my price range but I would hate to always wonder about it.
I'd be looking for a size 53.5 traditional. Anyone seen one in their local shop? Any feedback regarding the stnd vs SL in terms of performance, or other, would be appreciated!
Regards
Tim
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dbrk
contributor
Reged: 12/18/03
Posts: 201
Loc: Finger Lakes, New York
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Before I got my VaMoots the SL model had just come out. The difference in ride, according to Dan at Moots, was non-existent. The bikes rode the same. It was only about grams and a marginal aesthetic difference since the SL has smaller diameter tubing, etc. But as for ride, nothing to keep you up at night or give you a second thought.
I love my bike but would have preferred the Hampsten graphics so I wish I'd ordered it through hampsten.com. Though this is just a rebadged/redecaled Moots, it's more of a road name too and one with great history. Nice fellas too, those Hampstens.
Moots is fantastic to work with. Really nice folks.
dbrk
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Allan
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Reged: 05/04/04
Posts: 198
Loc: Bds,W I
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Sorry you compact fans but i just cant handle the look of the compact in my size, and if you were all riding bikes larger than a 56 cm, you might be inclined to agree with me on the weird looking effect of having the eqivalent of a 60 cm frame in sloping with a foot or more of saddle post showing.
There have been many thoughts for the "improved" design but as of today theres still no concrete proof for the compact in size or weight or handling, although i have heard that during out of the saddle climbing, you knees dont touch the top tube since its a bit lower but this to me is neglible.
Dont get me wrong, there are some sloping tube bikes out there that do it right with a simple gradual slope, and for the smaller sizes this is fine, but a lot look just too steep to be realistic once the frame size gets bigger.
Me a traditionalist??? definately not, i'm just being realistic when it comes to my bike size. 
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Dave_Thompson
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Reged: 12/19/03
Posts: 719
Loc: Spokane, Washington
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Allan: Simple answer; beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Steel lover, but then I like Ti with carbon too.
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Dave_Thompson
prophet
Reged: 12/19/03
Posts: 719
Loc: Spokane, Washington
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Quote:
Dave_Thompson wrote:
Allan: Simple answer; beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Of course conveniently forgetting to add that I just bought a Vamoots Compact (my first compact style bike) which I should have in about a week or so.
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