Nev
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Reged: 05/03/04
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Loc: Never where I want to be
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Here's my neighbor's old Allez.
The rear brake...
Between the seat stays...
Is no longer attached to the stay on one side.
Can it be reattached? In photo #3 you can see what looks like maybe a rivet. You can see the back of it, inside the brake bridge, looking between the stay and brake, but I can't tell if it goes into the stay.
Can it be glued back up?
Is it toast?
Shop said if he had the receipt he could get a new frame by warranty from Specialized. But he got it used, other guy doesn't have it. Throwing that in.
What's the final word?
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Insightdriver
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Reged: 03/07/04
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I suspect only the manufacturer could tell. Craig would also be likely to be able to tell. I suggest getting better pictures showing close-ups of the break. If it was a rivet I suspect the rivet is what broke, but it must be checked to make sure that it wasn't pulled out of the seat stay. If this frame is repairable at reasonable cost, then this could help counter the critic's claims that carbon bikes can't be fixed.
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Lon
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Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 595
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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A Calfee can be fixed and several have on the forum. I also have a friend who had his fixed. Someone forgot it was on the roof top rack and hit an overhang.
With aluminum lugs as this had it could be the reaction of the two materials. Then the materials would not support a fix. Also I doubt it is worth the money to fix it.
Calfee now runs ads that they fix carbon bikes. They are in Velonews.
Take care.
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Nev
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Insight, Lon,
Thanks.
Yea, I figured as much.
The concensus seems to be it's time for a new ride. Which will bum him out because I know he really likes how this rides. On the upside, I'll get to buy it off him for the parts and my extra projects! I'll also talk to him about going the new frame route and moving what he can over. But he liked how this rode. His preferred $$$ for an all new bike will get him an aluminum frame--but newer parts all around. Nice, but not the same. I'll do what I can to make sure he gets his test rides before purchase.
Although maybe I should keep him off the carbon bikes?
Thanks Gentlemen
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Lon
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Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 595
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Actually it is amazing that frame held together this long. These were not the best design in carbon that ever came down the pike. It may have set a longevity record. 
If he liked the ride to go with aluminum will make him a very unhappy rider. He is much better off to put the money into the frame and get the parts when he can.
Have him check the Calfee site on a periodic basis. He sells frames of various types at reduced prices.
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Allan
journeyman
Reged: 05/04/04
Posts: 198
Loc: Bds,W I
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Lon i'll have to agree with your call in regard to that model of Allez. Those frames were known to be quite "flexy", and many suffered with the alloy lugs suddenly parting company with their carbon tubes.
If my mind serves me correctly the Giant Cadex was a similiarly designed frame with the same "flexy" ride, and yes they fell apart at a fast rate as well.
For some reason Specialized chose to offer the Allez framesets with two colours of grapics, the red ones as shown in the photo, and the much rarer yellow ones.
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Its time to ride.
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Lon
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Reged: 12/20/03
Posts: 595
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Allan...did you leave the name of the post the same, (It's Amazing) for the content...or because we agreed? 
Seriously it is always great to have your input. After our initial "dicsussions" we seem to agree a great deal. Actually I don't even remember what it was originally.
Your insight and knowledge are among the best on this board and all the others. That is why I look forward to your view of a post.
Have a Happy Thanksgiving and safe riding.
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Allan
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Reged: 05/04/04
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Loc: Bds,W I
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Well Lon i could leave you to ponder about the post heading, but actually i just left it as it was, so now you know.
Also thanks for all those kind remarks, and i'm sure you and your family will have a great Thanksgiving and a wonderful start to the holiday season.
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Its time to ride.
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Nev
captain
Reged: 05/03/04
Posts: 373
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We had goose. And a duck (that I cooked badly on the grill).
The bike is now in my garage, some parts slowly being moved to a fixed gear project. My daughter asked for the frame, to hang in her room. Which makes a dad proud.
Neighbor was looking at some $900 - 1K bikes. I steered him $500 higher and he got a Specialized Roubaix. I hope he doesn't start cursing me soon (not good for block dynamics). But he does admit to a vastly different ride between his new carbon toy and the aluminum frames. I was concerned about his back and knowing he'll ride 1 or 2 hours at a time when he goes out. Plus, he only told me about 20 times how different/better it felt than his old bike during the quick 10 miles we rode afterwards.
Some day I'll add my own carbon machine to the stable.
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