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Umlungu
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Shorts new
#7871 - 07/20/06 05:13 PM (64.101.130.167)

I was wondering what everyone here likes/rides with when it comes to shorts. Do you like a traditional short or bib style? Any particular brand loyalty, if so why? Is cost the most significant factor to you when buying shorts or maybe the chamois?

I made a transition to bib shorts last year and have really enjoyed them. So far I've only used performancebike's ultrabib but I recently saw a pair of Bergamo bibs at my LBS that looked downright comfy. I'm looking to try out a few different brands perhaps and am hoping for some outside opinions.

Thanks!

Edited by Umlungu (07/20/06 05:14 PM)


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Dave_Thompson
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Re: Shorts new [Re: Umlungu]
#7872 - 07/20/06 06:42 PM (67.185.76.57)

Quote:

Umlungu wrote:
I was wondering what everyone here likes/rides with when it comes to shorts. Do you like a traditional short or bib style? Any particular brand loyalty, if so why? Is cost the most significant factor to you when buying shorts or maybe the chamois?

I made a transition to bib shorts last year and have really enjoyed them. So far I've only used performancebike's ultrabib but I recently saw a pair of Bergamo bibs at my LBS that looked downright comfy. I'm looking to try out a few different brands perhaps and am hoping for some outside opinions.

Thanks!



Shorts are very much like saddles; what works for one doesn't necessarily work for the other.

My faves are Castelli with the Y3Pro chamois and Assos. I do a lot of long rides where 'natural breaks' occur and it's hard to do with bibs.

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cccyclist
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Re: Shorts new [Re: Dave_Thompson]
#7873 - 07/20/06 06:58 PM (12.198.24.82)

I alternate between Assos F1 bibs and Assos F1 Mille half shorts. Alternating the two different pad designs helps keep the saddle sores at bay.

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flythebike
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Re: Shorts new [Re: cccyclist]
#7882 - 07/27/06 04:08 PM (66.7.29.142)

Our team kits are Santini. Their turnaround time for amateur teams is abysmal, but they are pretty much worth the wait. I have three pairs and they are great (bibs). They fit snugly around your backside which is key.

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Re: Shorts [Re: flythebike]
#8033 - 08/25/06 01:02 PM (66.27.156.69)

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flythebike wrote:
Our team kits are Santini. Their turnaround time for amateur teams is abysmal, but they are pretty much worth the wait. I have three pairs and they are great (bibs). They fit snugly around your backside which is key.




I just ordered the Performance brand bibs from Performance Bike. I should have them in about a week.

I am thinking that I made a mistake. They seem to be a good value, but my concern is that the chamois will bunch up on me and become uncomfortable. I know there are more expensive bibs where the chamois is designed to conform in a way to increase comfort. I may end up buying a more expensive brand, but I have sort of blown my budget on a new bike, pedals, helmet, etc.

Bruce


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Re: Shorts new [Re: Darby]
#8035 - 08/25/06 01:28 PM (67.185.76.57)

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Darby wrote:

I just ordered the Performance brand bibs from Performance Bike. I should have them in about a week.

I am thinking that I made a mistake. They seem to be a good value, but my concern is that the chamois will bunch up on me and become uncomfortable. I know there are more expensive bibs where the chamois is designed to conform in a way to increase comfort. I may end up buying a more expensive brand, but I have sort of blown my budget on a new bike, pedals, helmet, etc.

Bruce



Typically, chamois don't bunch up but can creep into places where they don't belong. It's been my experience that good, mid-priced shorts with a relatively thin chamois (not like a thick diaper pad) and judicious use of a good chamois creme (butt butter) keep things very comfy down there. I have Assos shorts (my faves) but if I'm going to be on the road for several days traveling on the bike, I use REI shorts. To me these represent a good value, have the thin pads I like and have lasted more than a couple of years.

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Re: Shorts new [Re: Darby]
#8037 - 08/25/06 02:11 PM (71.244.1.190)

I have used performance brand ultrabib for two seasons and they are an excellent value. They have 10 panels, a nice chamois and hold up well to the wear if they work for you.

Interestingly enough, Pez recently had an interesting article about the very manuf. (bergamo) I have been eyeing.


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Re: Shorts new [Re: Umlungu]
#8038 - 08/25/06 02:37 PM (66.27.156.69)

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Umlungu wrote:
I have used performance brand ultrabib for two seasons and they are an excellent value. They have 10 panels, a nice chamois and hold up well to the wear if they work for you.

Interestingly enough, Pez recently had an interesting article about the very manuf. (bergamo) I have been eyeing.




Thanks, you just saved me $100. I was going to move up to a more expensive bib. I have been spending too much on my bike obsession lately.

Bruce


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Re: Shorts new [Re: Darby]
#8039 - 08/25/06 04:40 PM (67.185.76.57)

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Darby wrote:<snip>.............I have been spending too much on my bike obsession lately.

Bruce



You can never spend too much on your bike obsession!

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Re: Shorts new [Re: Umlungu]
#8042 - 08/25/06 09:48 PM (63.163.107.100)

I've had good luck on shorter rides (< 6 hours) with the Hammer Nutrition re-branded Voler shorts. They're pretty minimal, but not as cheap in construction as you'd think they'd be for the price.

For anything longer than that (double centuries) I use Pearl Izumi Microsensor 3D shorts. They're pricey, but they're the only ones I've found so far that I can wear all day. I haven't tried Assos yet though.

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Re: Shorts new [Re: Dave_Thompson]
#8043 - 08/25/06 11:24 PM (66.27.156.69)

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Dave_Thompson wrote:
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Darby wrote:<snip>.............I have been spending too much on my bike obsession lately.

Bruce



You can never spend too much on your bike obsession!




Dave, I am glad I am not alone in my obsession, and I am sure you are familiar with how it works.

You can buy a medocre product, like for example shorts for $. They will probably be uncomfortable and slide down you backside while riding. Most likely you will hate them and toss them in the garage and then you have to spend $$$ for a much better pair. You have now spent $ + $$$ for the shorts. You could have saved money and just bought the $$$ stuff first. So, I usually just end up buying the best damned stuff I can get first which is often overkill.

Welcome to my obsession

Bruce


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Re: Shorts new [Re: Darby]
#8044 - 08/25/06 11:54 PM (67.185.76.57)

Darby wrote:<snip>.............I have been spending too much on my bike obsession lately.

Bruce



Quote:

Dave Thompson wrote: You can never spend too much on your bike obsession!




Dave, I am glad I am not alone in my obsession, and I am sure you are familiar with how it works. <snip>..........

Welcome to my obsession

Bruce



Bruce: I've found it's much better to spend $50 once, than spend $25 twice.

My obsession: http://www.bikefanclub.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=45

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Re: Shorts new [Re: Darby]
#8045 - 08/26/06 02:45 AM (71.97.97.103)

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Darby wrote:
I have been spending too much on my bike obsession lately.



Good grief Darby.



Carrying on...I've returned a couple different pairs of Performance shorts. Didn't work for me. In addition to other shorts/bibs I have, I also have a few pairs of inexpensive Cannodale shorts that have been incredible.


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Re: Shorts new [Re: Nev]
#8049 - 08/26/06 09:16 PM (66.27.156.69)

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Nev wrote:
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Darby wrote:
I have been spending too much on my bike obsession lately.



Good grief Darby.



Carrying on...I've returned a couple different pairs of Performance shorts. Didn't work for me. In addition to other shorts/bibs I have, I also have a few pairs of inexpensive Cannodale shorts that have been incredible.




At least Performance does have a good return policy. I will try the bibs and see if they work out.

I realize that you don't always get what you pay for. Often, it takes a lot of research to know if something is good or not. This forum as been great; I learn from the experience of others.


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