Darby
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I am still trying to get the hang of ridding with pedals. I had never ridden with clipless pedals before so I did a lot of research on which pedals to buy and finally chose Shimano pd-7800. It came down to a decision between the Shimano SPDL and Speedplay Zeros.
Well, I am having a real hard time adjusting to the Shimanos. Right now I am nursing my wrist after taking a nasty spill at a traffic signal. I tried to clip out and for some reason they didn't clip out, they were stuck. I have had this problem twice now where I can?t get them to release.
The other problem I have is trying to get in them when I am on a hill. They don't always hang with the correct side facing up if I am on a steep hill.
So, I am back to considering Speedplays. The down side I have heard may be someone?s exaggerations but this is what I have heard:
* The springs can fall out of them on a long ride.
* They are more subject to dirt and debris clogging them up
* They can clip out unexpectedly
* The small platform doesn't feel as sturdy as the SPDLs.
The good things, I have hears is easy to get in and out of.
Anyone have experience with both Shimano and Speedplay?
Bruce
Edited by Darby (11/11/06 07:32 PM)
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Well, I am a real hard time adjusting to the Shimanos. Right now I am nursing my wrist after taking a nasty spill at a traffic signal. I tried to clip out and for some reason they didn't clip out, they were stuck. I have had this problem twice now where I can?t get them to release.
The other problem I have is trying to get in them when I am on a hill. They don't always hang with the correct side facing up if I am on a steep hill.
So, I am back to considering Speedplays. The down side I have heard may be someone?s exaggerations but this is what I have heard:
* The springs can fall out of them on a long ride.
* They are more subject to dirt and debris clogging them up
* They can clip out unexpectedly
* The small platform doesn't feel as sturdy as the SPDLs.
The good things, I have hears is easy to get in and out of.
Anyone have experience with both Shimano and Speedplay?
Bruce
No experience with Shimano here. But have you adjusted the tension? The release is adjustable and has to be set to where you like it. Or you might not clip out and...
I ride Speedplay Zero's.
--Springs fall out? There aren't any springs I know of. I have about 3k on mine. "Zero" problems.
--No trouble with dirt. That's probably be in the cleat, but a quick look at it before every ride, which you should do anyway, can take care of that.
--I've never ever clipped out unexpectedly.
--The pedal is small, but the Cleat is huge for a big wide platform.
They are great for two sided entry.
But check the tension on yours first.
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Darby
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I ride Speedplay Zero's.
--Springs fall out? There aren't any springs I know of. I have about 3k on mine. "Zero" problems.
--No trouble with dirt. That's probably be in the cleat, but a quick look at it before every ride, which you should do anyway, can take care of that.
--I've never ever clipped out unexpectedly.
--The pedal is small, but the Cleat is huge for a big wide platform.
They are great for two sided entry.
But check the tension on yours first.
I probably have it wrong. It was screws that come loose not springs. However, a little locktite would solve that problem.
As for the adjustment I don't see any on the shoes. Just for and aft movement.
Bruce
Edited by Darby (11/11/06 07:31 PM)
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You should spend some time on the Speedplay site.
I have ridden both X series and Zeros for years. If the Zero cleats are installed badly, it's possible for the cleat attaching screws to come out. Loctite and a little awareness are all that's really necessary.
That said, the X series are easier in and out if you think a free float will work for you (works for lots of people, depends on your knees and your desire to maximize your speed - free float trades off greater knee comfort for a little bit of efficiency in my opinion).
Brand new easy action Zeros were introduced at a trade show recently - those sound interesting.
Great pedals, two-sided entry is great, all pedals need a week or two to get used to, small platform means nothing. No other pedal is as good as Speedplay, IMO.
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Well, I am having a real hard time adjusting to the Shimanos.
Ride on a long, straight, desolate road with no obstacles. While coasting along, unclip and clip back in repeatedly. Now repeat with the other foot. After a mile of this, I think your leg/ankle/foot should have enough muscle memory to get you out (and in) whenever you need.
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The other problem I have is trying to get in them when I am on a hill. They don't always hang with the correct side facing up if I am on a steep hill.
Don't unclip on hills 
Seriously, learn to pedal on the back side of the pedal until you have the opportunity to flip the pedal and clip in. If you do the exercise I described above, also try flipping the pedal over so that you're forced to flip it back into the proper position for entry.
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So, I am back to considering Speedplays.
Even though I'm a huge fan of Speedplays, I don't think this is the correct solution. In fact, you may still have the same, similar or different problems. Learn to use what you bought. ...dance with who you brung.
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* The springs can fall out of them on a long ride.
The springs are in the cleats and don't fall out. They (or the cleat) would be broken if the springs are falling out.
As others have said, the mounting screws can back out. I have not experienced this. If you use Loctite, you MUST clean the threaded hole first!!!! The oils left from threading will lead to Loctite failure.
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* They are more subject to dirt and debris clogging them up
The Speedplay cleats are can clog up with dirt and debris just like the pedals in the Shimano system. Basically, the mechanical parts which are subject to dirt and harm are located in the cleat with Speedplay and the pedal with Shimano. In this respect, the Speedplays are worse since you will be walking in the cleats.
I understand you gotta walk where you must, but keep it to a minimum and choose with reasonable care, your path. The cleats can and do stay fairly clean. There are also little plastic covers you can place on Speedplay cleats to help keep them clean and minimize wear when walking.
Remember, bicycle road shoes are for riding, not walking. If you really plan on lots of walking, get touring shoes or mt. bike shoes.
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* They can clip out unexpectedly
About as unexpectedly as the Shimanos.
Before I got my Speedplays, they were describe to me as being similar to walking on an ice skating rink with leather soled shoes. They float VERY easily and have LOTS of float (my old style). I understand this is a little unnerving to some, especially new riders and those new to the pedals. But comfort comes quickly and I would never use anything else. I like the liberal amount of float and I have good knees.
So, with a good pedaling style (smooth and even circles) and no biomechanical issues, there shouldn't be any reason for unexpected release.
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* The small platform doesn't feel as sturdy as the SPDLs.
I completely disagree. The Speedplays are solid feeling, unless you count that "ice skate" sensation. That feeling should only be there in the beginning as a new user. There is no rocking or hot spot issues. If you do feel unstable, perhaps your shoe sole is too soft and flexible. Road shoes are supposed to be stiff (and uncomfortable to walk in). That transmits greater energy to the pedal.
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The good things, I have hears is easy to get in and out of.
IMHO, they are more difficult to get into than Look, and SPD clones. First generation Time pedals were marginally more difficult. Speedplays are easy to get out of. But, no more easy than any other pedal.
The only dificult pedal to get out from are toe clips with the straps cinched down really tight.
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Anyone have experience with both Shimano and Speedplay?
I've been riding with Speedplays for over 10 years and wouldn't trade them.
I have SPD clones (Performance and Nashbar brands) on my mt. bike and commute bike. I use these pedals on those two bikes because I use my mt. bike shoes for both. I want the ability to walk comfortably.
I've also used 1st generation Time pedals, 1st gen Look pedals and toe clips/straps before that. Each was good in it's time period and each subsequent pedal was better for my needs. Actually, I prefer toe clips/straps on my mt. bike, but they won't work (very well) with the shoes and SPD pedals that are shared on my commute bike.
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Darby
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I think I know what I did wrong now. It was entirely operator error. I probably tried to clip out with the pedal in the up position. I wont do that again. I think the outcome would hace been the same whether I was ridding Shimano or Speedplay pedales--I would have gone down.
I will ride with the Shimanos longer and try what has been suggested, practice riding on the back of the pedals. Also, no clipping out on a hill. I may still defect to Speedplays though.
Bruce
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cccyclist
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I ride Speedplay X2s. I love them. No problem with screws or anything. I carry coffee shop covers to wear if I am going into a store or walking around in dirt.
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skuke
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I think I know what I did wrong now. It was entirely operator error. I probably tried to clip out with the pedal in the up position. I wont do that again. I think the outcome would hace been the same whether I was ridding Shimano or Speedplay pedales--I would have gone down.
Huh? You mean one pedal and crank arm was straight up and the other was down? That shouldn't make any difference in your ability to clip out, or not. I'm sure the pedal and cleat doesn't care where in it's rotational position it's in.
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Huh? You mean one pedal and crank arm was straight up and the other was down? That shouldn't make any difference in your ability to clip out, or not. I'm sure the pedal and cleat doesn't care where in it's rotational position it's in.
Yes, Well that was what the wrench at my local bike shop thought caused my spill. He might have just made it up. It wouldn't be the first time he misinformed me.
I probably just waited too long to clip out and lost my balance. What ever the reason it certainly sucks. It is even hard to type this message because my right hand looks like a baseball glove.
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Yes, Well that was what the wrench at my local bike shop thought caused my spill. He might have just made it up. It wouldn't be the first time he misinformed me.
That you continue to go to a shop where the staff is known to make stuff up to appease you boggles my mind. There has to be more than one bike shop in town!
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What ever the reason it certainly sucks. It is even hard to type this message because my right hand looks like a baseball glove.
The nmemonic for this type of injury is RICE. Rest (the hand), Ice, Compression (ace bandage wrap), Elevation. If it's swollen that bad, I presume you've been to the doc and had an x-ray?
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The nmemonic for this type of injury is RICE. Rest (the hand), Ice, Compression (ace bandage wrap), Elevation. If it's swollen that bad, I presume you've been to the doc and had an x-ray?
I wrapped it with an ice pack and later in the day used hot water. I didn't go to the doc because I am some what of an expert on broken bones having broken both legs, my left arm, fingers, toes and collar bones, etc. I knew it was a soft tissue injury and that it would recover in a few days and it is much better today. The swelling has gone down and I am planning on riding today.
Bruce
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Nev
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Seriously, for a bit, practice over and over clipped in, leaning against a wall at your house, before riding or moving. You gotta get the feel before you do it moving...and to adjust the release tension you like.
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Seriously, for a bit, practice over and over clipped in, leaning against a wall at your house, before riding or moving. You gotta get the feel before you do it moving...and to adjust the release tension you like.
I probably didn't spend enough time getting familiar with the pedals before I hit the road (figuratively and literally) but I really thought I had it down. My neighbor, a long time cyclist, had told me that I would fall a couple of times, which I have. So, hopefully it is behind me now.
I have changed my training routine to be a little less aggressive. As of my ride today, I am spending more time getting familiar with the bike and letting my body adjust to the bike before I ride to far from home.
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Nev
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Hey Darby,
You haven't said anything about adjusting the tension yet -- which is an important part of the equation.
CLICK HERE
The click on the "Service Instruction for SPD-SL System"
It's the instructions on your pedals from the Shimano site. If you don't have them, you should.
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Darby
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Hey Darby,
You haven't said anything about adjusting the tension yet --which is an important part of the equation.
I didn't think it was possible to adjust the tension on the SPDL pedals. Thanks for the the link. I will adjust them and maybe I wont need to replace them with Speedplays after all.
Bruce
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Darby,
Had an incident recently riding up a very steep hill and had the chain get jammed between the cogs and spokes. Wheel stopped immediately, but with my Speedplay X's, was able to get out before falling over. They are easy to get in to and out of but very secure while riding. Gentle on the knees. A very simple design. I carry cleat covers to put on when off the bike. Could not recommend more!
Neil
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skuke
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I think I know what I did wrong now. It was entirely operator error. I probably tried to clip out with the pedal in the up position. I wont do that again.
So I went out for a quick ride before the rain is due. I noted that as I approached a stop light, my left pedal was at it's highest point as I unclipped my Speedplays. Just as I came to a complete stop, I finish the process (pedal up) and stepped on the ground with my left foot. I couldn't described this process before because it's second nature and not something I'm consciously aware of. I just do it. Once stopped, I rotate the crank ~3/4 of a turn so that my right foot is forward most and ready to power down when I leave the light.
My point to this is that, as I suspected, the pedal will release in the top most position. Actually, I tried and as I stated before, it will release from any crank rotational position. It will also engage from any rotational position. Of course, these were the Speedplays, but there is no doubt in my mind that ANY pedal will behave similarily.
As others have noted, check your release tension (n/a on Speedplays). It should have been in a medium range from the factory.
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Darby,
Had an incident recently riding up a very steep hill and had the chain get jammed between the cogs and spokes. Wheel stopped immediately, but with my Speedplay X's, was able to get out before falling over. They are easy to get in to and out of but very secure while riding. Gentle on the knees. A very simple design. I carry cleat covers to put on when off the bike. Could not recommend more!
Neil
I will be trying on a pair of Speedplay Light Action in the next few days. The Light Action are their new pedals. If they are easier to get in and out of than my current Shimano pedals, I will be making a change.
There are a lot of hills where I live and the difficulty of getting in the Shimanos on a hill is a big concern of mine.
Bruce
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Darby
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So I went out for a quick ride before the rain is due. I noted that as I approached a stop light, my left pedal was at it's highest point as I unclipped my Speedplays. Just as I came to a complete stop, I finish the process (pedal up) and stepped on the ground with my left foot. I couldn't described this process before because it's second nature and not something I'm consciously aware of. I just do it. Once stopped, I rotate the crank ~3/4 of a turn so that my right foot is forward most and ready to power down when I leave the light.
My point to this is that, as I suspected, the pedal will release in the top most position. Actually, I tried and as I stated before, it will release from any crank rotational position. It will also engage from any rotational position. Of course, these were the Speedplays, but there is no doubt in my mind that ANY pedal will behave similarily.
As others have noted, check your release tension (n/a on Speedplays). It should have been in a medium range from the factory.
Thanks for the help with the pedals. I may keep the Shimanos and if I do, I will make sure that I get them adjusted to release with less effort. I did not know that they were adjustable. However, I am starting to see advantages that the Speedplay pedals have that will most likely work better for me.
By the way, I spoke to a wrench at Performance Bike about the incidence and he seemed to think that I may have lifted the heel on the foot in the up position as I tried to disengage. He believes that this might bind just enough to keep me for pulling my left foot out.
Bruce
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I remember, but not enough, another thread on another board on riders first experiences with clipless pedals. It was hilarious. At any rate I would like to say that I've used Time Atac pedals and was happy enough with them. I started out on SPD pedals where I had my baptism with clipless. I now have Eggbeater Candy pedals and I like them over the other pedals I have tried. For me, I like the smoothness of the float and how easy it is to unclip from the pedals. They are the easiest I've had, to step into.
I am of the opinion, though, that there is room for many different systems because no one system is superior to another. Each has strengths and weaknesses. Oh, and with my Candies, I have recessed cleats on my mountain bike shoes, which makes walking around all day in them comfortable. For this reason I love mountain bike shoes and the systems with recessed cleats.
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I am of the opinion, though, that there is room for many different systems because no one system is superior to another. Each has strengths and weaknesses. Oh, and with my Candies, I have recessed cleats on my mountain bike shoes, which makes walking around all day in them comfortable. For this reason I love mountain bike shoes and the systems with recessed cleats.
I am sort of embarrassed. I didn't notice that there is a tension adjustment on my Shimano pedals. You know what they say, if it was a snake...
Well, I am going to blame it on my poor eye site; or maybe my loss of short-term memory. I did notice that it an adjustment, I just forgot.
At any rate, I had originally bought mountain bike pedals and shoes; then I noticed that all of the cyclists at the shop I frequent all ride with road shoes. I had heard some hype about road shoes and pedals being more comfortable on long rides than mountain shoes and pedals. I have idea if that is correct or not, but every time I have to walk in road shoes, I wonder if I made the right decision.
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I am sort of embarrassed. I didn't notice that there is a tension adjustment on my Shimano pedals. You know what they say, if it was a snake...
Well, I am going to blame it on my poor eye site; or maybe my loss of short-term memory. I did notice that it an adjustment, I just forgot.
At any rate, I had originally bought mountain bike pedals and shoes; then I noticed that all of the cyclists at the shop I frequent all ride with road shoes. I had heard some hype about road shoes and pedals being more comfortable on long rides than mountain shoes and pedals. I have idea if that is correct or not, but every time I have to walk in road shoes, I wonder if I made the right decision.
Bruce
The shop should've helped you when you got them. Or if you ordered them hopefully they came with the instructions I gave the link to. Keep them close and try out different release tensions. You might likely find you'll need to adjust it over time as your riding habits change or you become stronger, and so on.
What kind and how much walking are you doing in your riding shoes? No road shoes are going to be comfortable to walk in. Moutain shoes are walkable comfortably, but they're heavier and bulkier and you'll have to get a different pedal. I may be mistaken but I don't think the cleat systems are compatible, the screw holes are different. Plus the mountain shoes have tread on them, they're not flat like the road cleats need to be.
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Hi Nev,
Seems you aren't familiar with mountain bike systems. It is my observation that road systems are not technically superior to mountain bike systems for average folks. For racing, there is a difference, since minute changes that aid a racer are justified. Not in the real world, however. Frankly shoe weight and pedal weight are very, very low on the importance-scale of weight-weenies. I would suspect that in a time-trial, with all things being equal except for the pedal system, I doubt there would be a result difference that is significant. In 20 Km, for example, a one-second difference is as much as a weak breeze blowing the wrong way a couple of times during the time trial.
I am not dissing road systems. This is why I said there are different systems because there are different people with different points of view. What I do take issue with is oft-stated comments that seem reasonable, but really don't make a difference in the real world.
Just for me, I like being able to walk around comfortably in my bike shoes. That's just me and it does not say anything against a road system and carbon fiber shoes. Frankly I don't think there is any science that says a stiff shoe is more efficient than a flexible shoe. Our feet are flexible, after all and we can run and walk because of that flexibility. I suspect marketers have come up with stiffness as a reason to justify spending $500 for a pair of biking shoes.
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Hi Nev,
Seems you aren't familiar with mountain bike systems. It is my observation that road systems are not technically superior to mountain bike systems for average folks. For racing, there is a difference, since minute changes that aid a racer are justified. Not in the real world, however. Frankly shoe weight and pedal weight are very, very low on the importance-scale of weight-weenies. I would suspect that in a time-trial, with all things being equal except for the pedal system, I doubt there would be a result difference that is significant. In 20 Km, for example, a one-second difference is as much as a weak breeze blowing the wrong way a couple of times during the time trial.
I am not dissing road systems. This is why I said there are different systems because there are different people with different points of view. What I do take issue with is oft-stated comments that seem reasonable, but really don't make a difference in the real world.
Just for me, I like being able to walk around comfortably in my bike shoes. That's just me and it does not say anything against a road system and carbon fiber shoes. Frankly I don't think there is any science that says a stiff shoe is more efficient than a flexible shoe. Our feet are flexible, after all and we can run and walk because of that flexibility. I suspect marketers have come up with stiffness as a reason to justify spending $500 for a pair of biking shoes.
Hi Insightdriver,
What are you talking about?
What don't I know about mtb systems?
What performance assertion did I make about superiority of one system over another?
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The shop should've helped you when you got them. Or if you ordered them hopefully they came with the instructions I gave the link to. Keep them close and try out different release tensions. You might likely find you'll need to adjust it over time as your riding habits change or you become stronger, and so on.
What kind and how much walking are you doing in your riding shoes? No road shoes are going to be comfortable to walk in. Moutain shoes are walkable comfortably, but they're heavier and bulkier and you'll have to get a different pedal. I may be mistaken but I don't think the cleat systems are compatible, the screw holes are different. Plus the mountain shoes have tread on them, they're not flat like the road cleats need to be.
Hi Nev,
I bought the pedals online and didn't pay much attention to the instructions. It wasn't until your post that I realized that these pedals were adjustable and probably needed adjusting.
As far as shoes, currently I only walk in the shoes to my bike which is about 10 feet. I had considered mountain bike shoes because I thought that some day I would start ridding with a club and there would be more walking involved when I reach the finish line. However, I had heard that on long rides, road shoes were more comfortable than mountain. It may not be true, but I just listened to the opinions of people with more experience. Right now I am very happy with the shoes and after I get the pedals adjusted, which will be today, I am sure they will work for me as well.
Thanks for your help,
Bruce
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Hi Nev, this is what I took issue with:
"What kind and how much walking are you doing in your riding shoes? No road shoes are going to be comfortable to walk in. Moutain shoes are walkable comfortably, but they're heavier and bulkier and you'll have to get a different pedal. I may be mistaken but I don't think the cleat systems are compatible, the screw holes are different. Plus the mountain shoes have tread on them, they're not flat like the road cleats need to be. "
Some clipless road systems have smaller cleats that make walking in road shoes easier. So saying, "no road shoes are going to be comfortable to walk in," isn't necessarily true.
Mountain bike shoes also vary as far as weight and bulk. I also take issue with weight being an issue since there is little gained by taking weight off a shoe in the real world scheme of things.
As far as compatibility, the two-hole systems are identical in both road and mtb shoes. Some mtb shoes do have issues with bigger cleats not fitting in the cutout area and manufacturers include instructions on trimming the cutout area to fit certain brands of cleats.
Finally where the cleat attaches on a mountain bike shoe is flat, not treaded and can actually accept a road cleat. SPD, for example, will fit on both road and mtb shoes without issues.
Finally, Look-style road systems are proprietary and incompatible with mtb shoes. There is no data that suggests road systems like Look are any better for a racer than other systems. For the real world, a rider does need a system that has easy clip-in and clip-out since we tend to stop much more often than professional bicycle racers do.
Please don't take this wrong. I am not criticizing you but just pointing out that one must be careful making generalizations since there are always exceptions to the rule.
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Hi Nev,
Yea, but...I never...that's not what I...you're changing my...what the...not even close to...I didn't...you're...
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I've been on Speedplay X2s for about six years. I've never had problems with the springs. Dirt/mud clogging the cleats is a definite problem, but I rarely walk through mud with my cycling shoes. Accidentally clipping out has never been a problem. The platform to me feels no different from the Look pedals I used for years.
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Against the better judgment of some in this forum, I bought the new Speedplay Light Action Pedals and tested them briefly today. As you know, I was having a difficult time adjusting to the PD-7800 Shimano pedals.
Here are my observations so far:
* The Speedplays are extremely easy to get in and out of. I can engage and disengage the pedals with one hand by just pushing the pedal onto the shoe.
* Even if I have a difficult time connecting one of the pedals, I just start pedaling and engage as I ride. I had a difficult time doing this with the Shimanos because my foot would slip off the pedal. My foot doesn't slip off the Speedplay pedal.
* The feeling of free float is a little un-nerving. I have to be careful or my right foot will hit the chain stay. I have been told that this feeling will go away after a few rides.
* The Shimanos might feel a little more secure while riding. That big platform feel that everyone talks about, it might be real. I will need a few more rides to know for sure.
* The Shimanos are easier to talk in. This isn't a big issue to me since I don't walk very far. Speedplay also makes those Coffee House covers which I probably won't use anyway.
After I have had a few days to test the new pedals more, I will follow up with more observations.
Bruce
Edited by Darby (11/23/06 01:29 AM)
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Before I drop the Turkey on the Barbeque I decided to go on my morning ride with my new Speedplay pedals. My earlier comment about them not being as secure as the Shimano pedals in probably not accurate. I think it is the floaty (is floaty a word?) feeling that makes them feel less secure.
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