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Re: Racing with Calfees, again
      10/01/05 03:17 PM (67.161.185.252)

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homsie wrote:
Nice job, but I'm thinking that it usually comes down to rider strength, tactics, positioning and a bit of luck in crits.....versus your choice of a 404 or a disk. Personally, I wouldn't ever give up control for a little aero in a crit..

James




Alright, I've gone through this thread and decided to chime in here. Clearly you discount the aerodynamic effects of a zip wheel. Fine, live with that. Don't, however, try to invalidate someone else's belief that it helped them. That is the wrong approach. When do pro's use disk wheels and why do they use them? Now that you have that thought running, consider the reason. Now see if it can be applied to a race among mere mortals. If your conclusion is that the aerodynamic advantage is too small to matter, fine, be that way. I repeat, do not invalidate another person's belief just because you believe differently. That is all I'm trying to say.

You may very well be right, but being right does not mean you are charged with correcting anyone who believes differently. On the other hand, you may be wrong. Just consider that, you just may be wrong.

None of us here have enough information to correctly analyze the effects the zip wheel had. We have no test data, we have no race data. We have not examined the video, pictures or commentary. All we have is the commentary of the man who used the wheel and feels it helped him win the race. Personaly, for me, that's good enough. I made a simple congratulation for a job well done. I'm not here to pick apart someone's personal analysis. It boils down to you just picking on someone else, IMOHO.

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* Racing with Calfees, again Pintsized 06/07/05 06:07 AM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again flythebike   08/22/05 12:44 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again Pintsized   08/26/05 01:11 AM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again flythebike   08/26/05 04:35 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again flythebike   09/20/05 06:21 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again Pintsized   09/22/05 07:15 AM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again Insightdriver   09/21/05 12:41 AM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again flythebike   09/28/05 12:46 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again homsie   09/29/05 08:50 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again Insightdriver   10/01/05 03:17 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again homsie   10/01/05 04:51 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again Insightdriver   10/01/05 06:04 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again homsie   10/02/05 06:00 AM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again Insightdriver   10/02/05 07:51 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again flythebike   10/03/05 12:30 AM
. * Bikes Lon   10/03/05 04:07 PM
. * Re: Bikes flythebike   10/03/05 04:53 PM
. * Re: Bikes Lon   10/04/05 12:25 PM
. * Re: Bikes Dave_Thompson   10/03/05 05:00 PM
. * Sorry Fly...It's Not Me It's the Head Injury :) Lon   10/03/05 01:29 PM
. * Re: Sorry Fly...It's Not Me It's the Head Injury : flythebike   10/03/05 02:45 PM
. * Re: Sorry Fly...It's Not Me It's the Head Injury : Lon   10/03/05 04:03 PM
. * Re: Sorry Fly...It's Not Me It's the Head Injury : skuke   10/04/05 07:22 AM
. * Re: Sorry Fly...It's Not Me It's the Head Injury : flythebike   10/03/05 04:49 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again skuke   10/02/05 06:30 AM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again Lon   10/02/05 01:42 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again Pintsized   10/06/05 07:11 AM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again flythebike   10/06/05 12:51 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again flythebike   09/30/05 03:32 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again homsie   09/30/05 04:39 PM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again flythebike   09/30/05 05:04 PM
. * Hey Fly Lon   09/30/05 07:00 PM
. * Re: Hey Fly homsie   09/30/05 07:15 PM
. * Re: Hey Homise Lon   09/30/05 08:11 PM
. * Lon....I guess we'll just have to agree to disagre homsie   10/01/05 05:21 AM
. * Re: Lon....I guess we'll just have to agree to disagre skuke   10/01/05 06:25 AM
. * Re: Racing with Calfees, again homsie   09/30/05 06:15 PM

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