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Re: Carbon Durability
      04/09/04 12:16 AM (65.162.12.103)

In terms of long term durability (independent of repairability), you can't go wrong with either ti or steel. If ease of repair is a concern, a lugged steel frame is the easiest/cheapest to repair to a like new condition. See Tom Kellogg's comments here.

Note, however, that typically a titanium frame will be paired with a carbon fork. If you chip, scuff or gouge a carbon fork, you'll be wanting to replace it. Good high end lugged steel bikes come with good high end lugged steel forks, which will last just as long as the frame.

Any web search on the topics of carbon fiber failure will bring up a wealth of information that supports the concerns you raise. Carbon fiber performs extremely well in a perfect world, but after a few knocks and scrapes the performance of arbitrary carbon parts becomes very difficult to quantify. Not what you want, IMHO, for sports equipment that your life depends on.

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* Carbon Durability charlesf 04/08/04 08:34 PM
. * Re: Carbon Durability Max   04/11/04 12:25 AM
. * Re: Max's post charlesf   04/18/04 03:29 AM
. * Re: Serotta TheMightySkunk   04/22/04 10:09 PM
. * Re: Serotta skuke   04/22/04 11:17 PM
. * Re: AA flight 587 TheMightySkunk   04/23/04 07:09 AM
. * Re: AA flight 587 skuke   04/23/04 03:42 PM
. * Re: Parlee, Moots, Calfee RDP   04/10/04 02:57 AM
. * Re: Carbon Durability Tetrafied   04/09/04 08:30 PM
. * Re: Carbon Durability bfd   04/09/04 03:01 AM
. * Re: Carbon Durability vaxn8r   04/09/04 02:49 AM
. * Re: Carbon Durability DGauthier   04/09/04 12:16 AM
. * Re: Carbon Durability Wisdom   04/09/04 01:34 AM
. * I think... Dave_Thompson   04/09/04 02:43 AM
. * I don't think that's the only consideration . . . DGauthier   04/09/04 04:10 AM
. * Steel forks aren't very repairable.... . . dfcas   04/09/04 10:11 AM
. * Re: Steel forks aren't very repairable.... . . nicrump   04/09/04 05:43 PM
. * Re: Steel forks aren't very repairable.... . . DGauthier   04/09/04 08:10 PM
. * Re: Steel forks aren't very repairable.... . . charlesf   04/10/04 02:19 AM
. * Re: Steel forks aren't very repairable.... . . vaxn8r   04/10/04 06:20 AM
. * Re: Steel forks aren't very repairable.... . . 1centaur   04/10/04 02:24 PM
. * Re: Steel forks aren't very repairable.... . . easypedaler   04/10/04 03:34 PM
. * Re: ti v. carbon RDP   04/10/04 03:46 PM
. * Re:If I had too..... easypedaler   04/10/04 08:56 PM
. * Re: ti ride RDP   04/10/04 10:16 PM
. * Re: what the heck does...... easypedaler   04/10/04 03:35 PM
. * Re: what the heck does...... RDP   04/10/04 03:38 PM
. * Re: Parlee demos RDP   04/10/04 03:09 AM
. * Re: Parlee demos vaxn8r   04/10/04 06:10 AM
. * Re: Parlee demos RDP   04/10/04 06:14 AM
. * Re: Parlee demos vaxn8r   04/10/04 06:23 AM
. * Re: carbon v. ti RDP   04/10/04 06:40 AM
. * Re: carbon v. ti vaxn8r   04/11/04 01:45 AM
. * Merlin Lon   04/11/04 07:14 PM
. * Re: Merlin vaxn8r   04/12/04 03:02 AM
. * Re: Merlin Lon   04/12/04 06:15 PM
. * Re: Merlin bfd   04/12/04 07:04 PM
. * bfd & vaxn8r Lon   04/12/04 07:37 PM
. * Re: bfd & vaxn8r vaxn8r   04/13/04 04:01 AM
. * vaxn8r Lon   04/13/04 08:46 PM
. * vaxn8r Lon   04/13/04 12:15 PM
. * Re: When easypedaler   04/11/04 10:25 PM
. * Re: carbon v. ti RDP   04/11/04 05:10 AM
. * Re: Carbon Durability beegeddie   04/08/04 09:02 PM
. * Re: Carbon Durability MSO   04/09/04 06:18 PM

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