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Re: Off topic
      01/18/05 03:14 AM (64.186.108.56)

Howdy Vax...

I'm thinking you have me confused with someone else as I do not have a Sachs, though I would mind owning one at all!
Where did you see this orange Sachs anyway, I love Orange and this color sounds very intriguing? If I was in the market for a steelie, I would buy a Spectrum or Serotta. Besides that, I prefer fillet brazed asthetics over lugs any day ! I know, I know lugs are cool, but I love the sleekness of smooth frame joints...something I have always like about my old Klien.

Allan..

Thanks for the kind words...I did not mean to sound so neutral, but somethings just can not be measured in an objectional way. In cycling, there are so many factors that can help or hurt a component when it comes to performance and many of those factors are not very repeatable from one test session to the next. Just take the human factor for example...when I have tried testing my first gen Mavic Cosmic Pro's (my most favorite wheels ever!) against my Heliums, I could never get 2 relatively equal days weather wise, let alone 2 similar days that I felt equally strong to compare the 2 wheels. I ended up riding 4 complete round trips (2 on the Heliums and 2 on the Cosmics) to average out the results all on the same day. The wheels were nearly identical as far as MY times are concerned. The Heliums are vastly lighter, seem to ride smoother and windup far faster than the Cosmics, but the Cosmics feel so responsive, super-solid and very fast and my butt always told me they were faster. Go figure! I see your point of view on the wheel design side of things and I mostly agree. I have never been very good at wheel building, but I enjoy playing around. I do all the minor truing of my wheels and have noticed some wheels seem more soild than others - typically any 3 cross vs radial or even 2 cross designs are more robust.

Ciao...Mark

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* custom wheels...off topic waynebiker 12/27/04 01:34 AM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic Bruce   12/29/04 05:32 AM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic elvecchio   01/12/05 03:08 PM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic Allan   01/13/05 03:21 PM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic vaxn8r   01/14/05 12:40 AM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic Allan   01/14/05 04:02 AM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic vaxn8r   01/14/05 05:04 AM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic Dave_Thompson   01/14/05 05:14 AM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic Allan   01/14/05 07:43 AM
. * Proton Question Lon   01/14/05 03:00 AM
. * Re: Proton Question vaxn8r   01/15/05 05:04 AM
. * Re: Proton Question Lon   01/16/05 08:50 PM
. * Re: Proton Question vaxn8r   01/17/05 12:55 AM
. * offset spoke design rims bfd   01/18/05 06:05 PM
. * Re: offset spoke design rims Allan   01/18/05 07:44 PM
. * subjectivity on wheel weights vs performance skagwayroadie   01/15/05 09:18 PM
. * Re: subjectivity on wheel weights vs performance Allan   01/18/05 12:43 AM
. * Off topic vaxn8r   01/17/05 05:15 AM
. * Re: Off topic skagwayroadie   01/18/05 03:14 AM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic vaxn8r   01/13/05 03:13 AM
. * .I agree Dave_Thompson   01/12/05 04:16 PM
. * Re: .I agree Lon   01/12/05 06:53 PM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic dah   01/01/05 02:37 AM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic bfd   01/03/05 08:13 PM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic vaxn8r   01/04/05 04:44 AM
. * replacement rims bfd   01/05/05 06:14 PM
. * Re: replacement rims Lon   01/05/05 11:22 PM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic flythebike   01/04/05 02:57 PM
. * Why do people buils wheels? Mike   12/29/04 07:20 AM
. * Re: Why do people buils wheels? vaxn8r   12/29/04 07:42 AM
. * Re: Why do people build wheels? Mike   12/29/04 05:40 PM
. * Re: Why do people build wheels? vaxn8r   12/30/04 04:18 AM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic OnYerLeft   12/27/04 09:54 PM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic flythebike   12/28/04 02:49 PM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic mkg   12/27/04 04:40 AM
. * Re: custom wheels...off topic flythebike   12/27/04 02:40 PM

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