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Re: Riding my Custom Tetra Pro
      06/26/06 03:20 PM (67.185.76.57)

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Insightdriver wrote:<snip>...I will, however, state that I am not destroying my leather using neatsfoot oil on it. Like any manufacturer, they want you to use their stuff to take care of their product. It's normally a mixture of commodity ingredients sold in a small container for a high price.

You state information in a way that implies there is only one proper way to treat a leather saddle. I suggest you don't know much about the history of use of leather. For example almost all leather is vegatable tanned nowadays for one important reason: it's an environementally friendly way of tanning leather. If I were to spend big money on a premium western saddle I would want cromium-tanned leather because it produces a tougher, longer-lasting leather.

For an excellent introduction into leather go to this link:
http://amol.org.au/recollections/2/2/03.htm




Gotta disagree, a lot, about this with you. While Neatsfoot oil may be good for horse saddles and others that have a base or support from underneath, Brooks saddles are unsupported fore and aft. Neatsfoot oil will soften the leather and allow it to stretch. As the Brooks saddle leather stretches, the sag has to be taken up with the tension bolt, which will eventually stretch the leather fibers beyond their capacity and allow the leather to weaken and tear.

The leather of the B-17 is the thinnest and most flexible of the Brooks non-sprung saddles. Using Neatsfoot oil is not recommended because Brooks wants to sell their stuff, but because it can/will shorten the useful life of the saddle. Check with *any* vendor of Brooks products and they will say the same.

Brooks saddles have been around for over 100 years, making the same recommendations they make today. I would think if they thought Neatsfoot oil was better, they would market a "Brooks Proofoil" with the same vigor they market their Proofide now.

Edited by Dave_Thompson (06/26/06 03:30 PM)

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. * Re: Riding my Custom Tetra Pro Lon   06/10/06 02:37 AM
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. * Re: Riding my Custom Tetra Pro Insightdriver   06/26/06 02:38 PM
. * Re: Riding my Custom Tetra Pro Dave_Thompson   06/26/06 03:20 PM
. * Re: Riding my Custom Tetra Pro Insightdriver   06/26/06 06:13 PM
. * Re: Riding my Custom Tetra Pro Dave_Thompson   06/26/06 07:35 PM
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. * Re: Riding my Custom Tetra Pro Dave_Thompson   06/30/06 02:21 PM
. * Re: Riding my Custom Tetra Pro flythebike   07/11/06 12:57 PM
. * Re: Riding my Custom Tetra Pro Dave_Thompson   07/11/06 01:34 PM
. * Re: Riding my Custom Tetra Pro skuke   06/28/06 02:53 PM
. * Re: Perfecting my second custom Tetra Pro Insightdriver   12/30/05 04:04 AM
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. * Re: Perfecting my second custom Tetra Pro flythebike   11/16/05 07:32 PM
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. * Re: Perfecting my second custom Tetra Pro Lon   12/24/05 10:22 PM
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. * Disc Option Lon   12/25/05 05:00 PM
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. * Re: Perfecting my second custom Tetra Pro skuke   11/06/05 07:51 AM
. * Re: Perfecting my second custom Tetra Pro Insightdriver   11/06/05 05:51 PM
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. * Re: Perfecting my second custom Tetra Pro skuke   09/21/05 06:32 AM
. * Re: Perfecting my second custom Tetra Pro Insightdriver   09/22/05 01:38 AM
. * Re: Perfecting my second custom Tetra Pro skuke   09/22/05 05:34 AM
. * Re: Perfecting my second custom Tetra Pro vaxn8r   09/22/05 06:08 PM
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. * Re: Rack Montaque   10/26/05 04:28 PM
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. * Hardwood Fenders Lon   10/31/05 04:54 PM
. * Re: Rack & Fenders NoBrakes   10/29/05 06:34 PM
. * Re: Rack & Fenders Insightdriver   10/30/05 01:39 AM
. * Re: Rack & Fenders nhm   10/31/05 09:02 PM
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. * Re: Rack & Fenders Insightdriver   11/01/05 01:30 AM
. * Re: Rack & Fenders NoBrakes   11/01/05 08:58 AM
. * Re: Rack & Fenders skuke   11/03/05 08:07 AM
. * Wood fenders Dave_Thompson   11/01/05 12:45 AM
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. * Berthoud fenders Dave_Thompson   11/01/05 01:33 AM
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. * Re: Rack Insightdriver   10/27/05 03:01 AM
. * Re: Kryptonite locks skuke   10/26/05 06:26 AM
. * Re: Kryptonite locks Insightdriver   10/27/05 03:10 AM
. * Re: Kryptonite locks skuke   10/27/05 05:35 AM
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