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Darby wrote:

Eventually I plan on buying a new Calfee and then build up a beater bike from parts on my current Luna Pro. I would like to have a Ti bike because of they are rugged. I thought about a Seven or a Moots, etc and then came across this bike.

www.habcycles.com

All of the reviews seem good and the price is hard to beat. Anyone heard of this brand?

Bruce

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If you want a true "beater", buy a steel frame. They're much easier and cheaper to repair. IMHO, it should also be cheap to buy since your primary objective is to beat the thing and very little concern should go into the bike. ...who really cares if it's stolen, crashed, scratched... Steel is also, arguably, more durable and rugged than Ti, rust notwithstanding.

Um, why not use the Luna for a beater? Sacrilege to some, but as you've said previously: "Well, I realize that a bike is suppose to be a tool..."

Habanero makes a great Ti frame, for the money. I don't know anyone who owns one, but have spoken with a few owners on the road during my travels. They seemed content. How do I quantify "for the money"? I can't. I am just a victim of marketing forces with some real world economics thrown in. I was a R&D machinist for over 24 years and something I always told the engineers was that they could have their parts "cheap, fast or accurate" and they could choose any two of the three. I believe the same basic philosophy applies.

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