I have to agree with the above posters. I have owned a Seven Axiom and now my Crown Jewel but never a Moots. I not only believe in the ride quality, constuction, looks of the frame but I have a thing for a company too. Moots is one of the originals they have great customer service and an outstanding working knowledge of titianium.. That said IF is the direct descendant of Fat City Cycles.. FAT CHANCE what more is there to say... I do have Moots ti posts on both of my ti IF's but I would never own another frame in lew of my IFs'. You really can't go wrong at the level with any of these companies but don't discount the customization and knowledge of framebuilding that IF, Seven or Serotta can provide. I question the company that says that their stock sizes fit as well as a custom ride. The key is CUSTOM RIDE... not bike but the entire ride, fit, ride quality and aesthetics are what you pay for... Choose wisely. Have fun..